Crowded House formed in 1985 in Melbourne, Australia. They’ve released eight albums, including their most recent one, Gravity Stairs, which came out last month. But on their very first album, they had a big hit with “Don’t Dream It’s Over.”

Crowded House made “Don’t Dream It’s Over” with Grammy-nominated producer Mitchell Froom, who they went on to work with multiple times. For this episode, I talked to frontman Neil Finn about how the song was first written, and how it developed with his bandmates and collaborators in the studio. And we talked about the profound connection people have had with the song over the years.

You can buy or stream “Don’t Dream It’s Over” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

For a transcript of this episode, click here.

footnotes:
Paul Hester – drums
Nick Seymour – bass
Tim Pierce – guitar
Tim Finn invited Neil to join Split Enz after Phil Judd left the band
Roland Space Echo
Hammond organ
Capitol Studios
Jim Keltnerand Jerry Scheff played on “Now We’re Getting Somewhere”
Crowded House, Sydney Opera House, 1996
Ariana Grande, Manchester, 2017
U2, Las Vegas, 2024

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Lizzy McAlpine released her first album in 2020, and her second album in 2022. And between the two, she’s had a lot of success. One of her songs, “Ceilings,” was a viral TikTok hit, and has been streamed over half a billion times. So you might think, with all that success, you’d want to keep working in way that’s been working. But while Lizzy was making her third album, Older, after almost a year into the process of recording, she threw the whole thing out. She brought in a new band, and started over with a totally different approach. I talked to her about the song “Staying” from her new album. You’ll hear her original voice memos, as well as the first version she made in the studio, and then how it really came to life once she reimagined it.

You can buy or stream “Staying” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

For a transcript of this episode, click here.

footnotes:
Mason Stoops – producer, guitar
Sam KS – drums
Michael “Libro” Libramento – bass
Tyler Nuffer – pedal steel
Ryan Richter – steel guitar
Taylor Mackall – piano, mellotron
The Japanese House – “One for sorrow, two for Joni Jones”

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The Flaming Lips formed in Oklahoma City in 1983. Over the last four decades, they’ve put out 16 albums. In 1999, they put out their album The Soft Bulletin, and that brought them a new level of success. And then, in 2002, they followed it up with Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, which was their biggest album to date. Pitchfork named it one of the top 5 albums of the year, Stereogum called it one of the best albums of the decade, and they won a Grammy. And the biggest song from the album was “Do You Realize??” So, for this episode, I talked to Wayne Coyne and Steven Drozd about how that song was first imagined. You’ll hear the very first demo Wayne recorded for the song, and the demo he and Steven put together later, on their way to making the final version with producer Dave Fridmann.

You can buy or stream “Do You Realize??” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

For a transcript of this episode, click here.

footnotes:
“We Can’t Predict The Future”
Mercury Rev
Jane’s Addiction
“Slow Motion” – Origin of the “Do You Realize??” drum fill
Adam Clayton fromU2

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