Key Change: Jason Schwartzman

The ‘Rushmore’ Soundtrack

Jason Schwartzman, actor, songwriter, and musician, talks about how the soundtrack to Rushmore—his first film—changed his life. I met Jason briefly in 2017, as he was leaving the room where I was supposed to interview the band Phoenix. I was shocked when he stopped on his way out to tell me he loved Song Exploder. Eight years later, I reached out to him to see if he’d want to be a guest on Key Change, and we ended up talking for almost two hours, just on the phone. By the time he came over to record, I felt like I’d met a kindred spirit who’d also been cataloguing his whole life through the songs he’d encountered along the way. The fact that we got to talk about one of my favorite movies, Rushmore, made the experience even more meaningful and thrilling for me.

You can buy or stream the Rushmore soundtrack here.

footnotes:
Francis Ford Coppola and Sofia Coppola
Bernice Bobs Her Hair
Phantom Planet is Missing – Phantom Planet
Davia Nelson of The Kitchen Sisters
Pinkerton – Weezer
The Kinks
“A Quick One, While He’s Away” – The Who
“Making Time” – The Creation
“Rue St. Vincent”
The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes
“Puttin’ on the Ritz” – Taco

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Episode 295: Goo Goo Dolls

“Iris”

Goo Goo Dolls formed in 1986 in Buffalo, New York, and by the time 1998 rolled around, they’d already had a pretty successful career. They’d released five albums, and one of their songs, “Name,” from 1995, had become a Top 10 hit. But things really changed for them when they made the song “Iris.” It originally came out on the soundtrack for the movie City of Angels, which came out in 1998 and starred Nicolas Cage and Meg Ryan.

“Iris” spent a record-breaking 18 weeks at number one on the radio, and became one of the best selling songs of all time, with over 14 million copies sold, and over 4.5 billion streams. So for this episode, John Rzeznik of Goo Goo Dolls came over to my place and he told me about how he wrote the song. He told me how the Grammy-winning producer Rob Cavallo helped them expand their vision, and how the version of the song in the movie isn’t actually the version that everybody knows.

You can buy or stream “Iris” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

footnotes:
Robby Takac – co-writer
Tim Pierce – mandolin and guitar
Jamie Muhoberac – keyboard
Producer Rob Cavallo is also interviewed in Green Day’s Song Exploder episode about the song “Basket Case”
David Campbell – string arranger
Jack Joseph Puig – recording engineer
Danny Bramson
Wings of Desire
Bob Dylan
Soul Asylum, The Replacements, and R.E.M.
Iris Dement
Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, “Bullet With Butterfly Wings” – Smashing Pumpkins
U2, Peter Gabriel, and Alanis Morissette

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Episode 294: Little Simz

“Free”

Little Simz is a rapper from England who put out her first album in 2015. She’s won the Mercury Prize, a Brit Award, and three MOBO awards. She also starred in the Netflix series Top Boy. Her most recent album is called Lotus. It came out in June 2025, and it followed a pretty tumultuous time in her career. For this episode, I got to talk to Little Simz about one of the songs from that album, called “Free,” along with Miles Clinton James, who produced the track.

You can buy or stream “Free” here.

Illustration by Carlos Lerma.

For a transcript of this episode, click here.

footnotes:
Alex Bonfanti – co-writer and bass player
Rosie Danvers – string arranger
Conversations With God
All About Love
The Kinks
Jackson Five
RAK studios

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